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Preseason ATS: /11-6/

There are no real good trends to fall on in this game other then the fact that the Rams are 1-7 SU in their last 8 preseason games. Regardless of that I am going to take the Rams tonight. I feel they are deeper at the QB position and their second and third units will be a bit to much for Tampa's on the carpet in the Rams dome.

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That 1-7 in preseason scares me. I see your logic: assuming that if there is gonna be a time for the Rams to win in preseason why wouldnt they do it against these guys and make it count...

I also read somewhere on here that Tampa had some time off and a lazy practice week.

Still skeptical though.
 

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Rams face Super Bowl champions

By R.B. FALLSTROM, AP Sports Writer
August 17, 2003
ST. LOUIS (AP) -- The St. Louis Rams and Tampa Bay Buccaneers have developed an intense rivalry, but their matchup this season will be relatively meaningless.

After all, their only meeting will be Monday night in a preseason game.

``It doesn't mean anything,'' offensive tackle Kyle Turley said. ``We're clicking on all cylinders, and we're just biding our time, waiting for the season to start.''

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Rams coach Mike Martz is more interested in assessing personnel than which team they are playing.

``We've got to be very methodical about the preseason and avoid the temptation to make something maybe more than what it really is, at the expense of losing a good player,'' Martz said. ``The Tampa Bay-Ram thing has been a pretty good rivalry over the years and I think our guys, without saying anything about it, get pretty excited about it.''

Bucs coach Jon Gruden respects the Rams (0-1), a dominant team before last year's 7-9 finish.

``We realize St. Louis is a great team, not only on offense but defensively,'' Gruden said. ``That's where they've made a lot of acquisitions here in the last couple of years.''

The Rams were winless in the preseason last year and lost their opener last week, 7-6 at Oakland, saddling them with a five-game exhibition losing streak. They'd like to enter the year with some success, but it is not that important.

``I don't really pay that much attention to it in the preseason because so many guys are playing,'' quarterback Kurt Warner said. ``It's important to get into a stride, get into a rhythm, get everyone on the same page and start feeling that continuity.''

Warner hopes to play most of the first half with Marc Bulger and Kirk Farmer also seeing action, but he has rarely played more than a quarter in the preseason with St. Louis during his career. Warner again will be working behind a line minus All-Pro Orlando Pace, a holdout since being given the franchise tag in the offseason.

Warner, who took a hard hit from the Raiders' John Parrella last week, said he wants Pace in camp now, especially since the Rams open the season at the New York Giants in just over three weeks.

``There's always a little bit of buzz about that, guys hoping he gets in there,'' Warner said. ``I don't think anybody has any legitimate information on where it's going and how it's going and what's been said on both sides, I just think everybody here wants him here.''

Rams running back Marshall Faulk will miss his second straight preseason game, following the team's conservative early game plan. He has not played in the first two games since 2000.

``I don't expect him to see any action until the third preseason game, and then sparingly in the fourth if at all,'' Martz said. ``Just enough to get him in there and get him going pretty good.''

Defensive back Aeneas Williams, recovering from torn ankle ligaments and a broken leg that cost him a half of last season, also will be out because of lingering soreness.

For the Bucs, offensive tackle Kenyatta Walker sprained his right ankle in practice this week and is questionable. Kicker Martin Gramatica has a a sore groin and will sit out.


Updated on Sunday, Aug 17, 2003 6:38 pm EDT

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bucs-rams&prov=ap&type=lgns
 

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That Pace thing sticks out to me like a sore thumb.

Anyone have any thoughts on that?
 

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Pace would only play a quarter tops anyway, it's the preseason. I think the Rams will be trying hard at home and esspecially on Monday Night. Like I said though, I am not betting with any more then my head this preseason. No trends or anything, preseason is to finicky for that.
 

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I agree with you about Pace - I was thinking more about later in the game when their 3rd or 4th stringer might get a little more time than he would have normally.

In many of these preseason games a lot is decided towards the end - and with the way Martz acts towards these preseason games I wouldnt be suprised if he just walks off the field in the 2nd quarter for the day - to work on the stuff that needs work with the first and second units...

I can't tell if I'm being a sucker because most of the arguments I see out there for betting Tampa seem like they have sucker mentality written all over them. The one thing I can say with some confidence is that I am more impressed thus far in the preseason with tampa than I am St louis - BUT Oakland is no pushover depth wise, and on the tampa side of things I suppose a win over the jets and a close one at miami is no better than par for the course.
 

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I don't side with anyone holding out and not honoring their contract!

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haha

I heard Warner got rocked last week and expressed some concern of his own too.

I didn't see that play - anyone know who fills in for Pace and how bad he really is?
 

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Oh crap, Northcoast is going to jinx me
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BASTARDS
 

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haha

If its any consolation I'm on Tampa small too...

I am good at flipping a coin but when I have a feeling about a game I should know by now to bet the other side.

Regardless I need some preseason medicine - so I took the 3 on Tampa.

Good luck
 

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Is it just me, or are the Rams a really undisciplined team? I have never seen this many careless timeouts before.
 

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Oh well, thought for sure Northcoast was going to screw me. When Simms came in and drove them right down the field and got the 2 point conversion I thought I was done for.
 

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Good job - Simms did great but too bad they had to play those other turkeys early on...
 

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